tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13004974.post111826309341389061..comments2023-11-02T09:08:06.306-05:00Comments on ktrayn78: Yoga and SatanKimberly Cangelosihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00739099899201439587noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13004974.post-1144048898190886282006-04-03T02:21:00.000-05:002006-04-03T02:21:00.000-05:00(From Holly Vicente Robaina):Hi Kim,Just FYI, ther...(From Holly Vicente Robaina):<BR/><BR/>Hi Kim,<BR/><BR/>Just FYI, there's now a PraiseMoves class near you. <BR/> <BR/>Instructor: Kim Carlson Kim.PraiseMoves@comcast.net <BR/><BR/>Classes: Saturdays @ 10:00 – 11:00 a.m. at Blanchard Road Alliance Church, Wheaton<BR/><BR/>I used to attend Willow Creek Wheaton (AKA mini-Willow, though maybe it's not so "mini" anymore) when I lived out there. So when I found out about this class I thought of you because of your Willow Creek posts. Then again, folks drive hours from every which direction to get to the Mother Church, so this could be a long, long way from your home.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/>HollyHollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317867541610325491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13004974.post-1136789965552966322006-01-09T00:59:00.000-06:002006-01-09T00:59:00.000-06:00Hi Holly, welcome! I love the rap metaphor. Georg...Hi Holly, welcome! I love the rap metaphor. George MacDonald once said something like "the quickest way to turn an indifferent thing evil is for good people not to do it." <BR/><BR/>I don't think Christians ought to be afraid to acknowledge either the benefits or the cultural history of Yoga. By putting together Yoga derivitive courses and refusing to acknowledge the source we make ourselves look reactionary, superstitious and hypocritical. Like Clint said, the church has never been squeamish about usurping pagan practices when they can be redeemed, why stop now?Kimberly Cangelosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00739099899201439587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13004974.post-1136705467778468862006-01-08T01:31:00.000-06:002006-01-08T01:31:00.000-06:00Hi Kim. For my part, the essence of the debate is ...Hi Kim. For my part, the essence of the debate is that it's important to differentiate between 1) yoga, and 2) stretching/deep breathing/relaxation/meditation. I think many people who've never stretched before discover yoga, absolutely love it, and then associate yoga as the only way to do stretching. It certainly is the most accessible and popular program out there.<BR/><BR/>I do stretches in my aerobics class every day, and I also do a stretching program twice a week. I meditate almost daily, focusing on a particular Scripture, a prayer, or "My Utmost for His Highest." All to say, I understand firsthand the appeal of stretch and relaxation, as well as our physical need for it.<BR/><BR/>Another way for me to think about this was to remember the emergence of Christian rap. A lot of people questioned, "How can Christians have anything to do with rap?" Rap was considered to be so filthy that it couldn't possibly be "redeemed." For me, it was thrilling--I loved rap and wanted to hear what Christians could do with the music genre. But I also knew that it wouldn't work to take gangsta rap, throw the word "Jesus" into it, and slap a Christian label on it. Several Christian artists took the beats, spoken word, and poetry of secular rap, and left out the profanity and violence. The result was incredible: tobymac and KJ-52 can mix beats and throw a line, in my humble opinion, even better than the likes of Kanye and Eminem. Maybe because those Christian rappers don't have an expletive to fall back on. <BR/><BR/>So along the lines of Friar Tuck's comment, I'm hoping more stretch/relaxation/meditation programs will be created so there will be alternatives to yoga. (I remember stretching in my junior-high gym class long before yoga programs hit the public school system.) And that more Christians will dig at the roots of yoga and recognize the Hindu spirituality that's there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13004974.post-1118341172434421962005-06-09T13:19:00.000-05:002005-06-09T13:19:00.000-05:00I have mixed feelings about this. When a teenager ...I have mixed feelings about this. When a teenager they tried to make us do transcendental mediation and I always opted out, feeling I would be surrendering to some evil spirit out there. Now, I have a nagging feeling that this spiritual practice could be redeemed for Christ, much like many of our Christain holidays are.<BR/><BR/>I say, find ways to convert the practice of YOGA to an act of worship for Christ, and read REIMAGINING SPRIRITUAL FORMATION with Pagitt's pro-yoga beliefs.<BR/><BR/>I think we neglect the possibility that we can pray with our bodies as much as with our minds.\<BR/><BR/>So, dont simply let Yoga be neutral. Redeem it for Christ.Friar Tuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404281343475373969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13004974.post-1118268904401590702005-06-08T17:15:00.000-05:002005-06-08T17:15:00.000-05:00Kim, thats so crazy to me! I remember when Marks ...Kim, thats so crazy to me! I remember when Marks mom was in town I jokingly sat with my legs crossed and began to hum and boy oh boy did I get an earful!! Apparently her and a lot of other people believe that yoga and meditation is a door way to... I don't even know what... but something bad. I suppose there is always more to the story but I certainly think we shouldn't assume all relaxation techniques are sinfuful or inviting satan into your mind!Steph Stangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08054729834159696763noreply@blogger.com